Just Because has a new line of mesh shirt vest combos. Its the kind of thing that suits my style so I picked one up without trying a demo at the Mens Fashion Fair.
Unfortunately it was a disappointing purchase. It looks great from a distance but formless up close.
First the good. The vest is a nice template with good texturing and the combo fits well. Stylistically this should have become one of my favorite combos.
But the shirt collar ruins the whole effect. As you can see the problem is 'Collar? What collar?' Sure you can argue they were going for a deliberate low buttoned collar look but there doesn't even seem to be an attempt to add any 3d modeling to the mesh template. The collar effect is purely texturing and with all the options out there for startlingly realistic three dimensional mesh clothing shapes, that just wont cut it anymore.
They seem to have gone all in on this template with a whole Great Gatsby inspired classic 1920's line planned with what looks like some really nice texturing, but nice texturing is frankly wasted effort when paired with such a weak mesh template, particularly for the comparatively high price they are charging.
I wanted to like this, I wouldn't have bought it if I hadn't and if I had liked it I would have picked up more shirt/jacket/vest combos from them, but it will probably be my last Just Because purchase without a fundamental template rethink on their part
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Wednesday, 1 May 2013
Thursday, 11 April 2013
Look good in Leather
I've been waiting semi-patiently for the Lapointe and Bastchild open leather jacket for quite a while. Regular readers of this blog already know of my gushing fondness for L&B's high standard of quality beautiful original templates and lovely texture options and this new product is another triumph.
Leather jacket fans were dependent on stiff sculpts and careful resizing for many years. After mesh came along my L&B sculpted leathers were about the only sculpted prim clothes I would still sometimes drag out of the darker corners of my bulging inventory. It says something that I would get people asking me 'where I got that great mesh leather' when they were actually looking at a sculpt item.
But even with high quality sculpts you were still spending hours if you were finicky carefully sizing, stretching and positioning to try to downplay the essentially stiff and static nature of prim attachments to create the illusion of a stretching, dynamic, three dimensional piece of clothing. Unlike some die-hards who resisted mesh I was a grateful early adopter not least because my determination to shape and position prim components had started to border on OCD.
Of course mesh comes with its own challenges: getting items that match your body shape - or adjusting that body shape to match what was available, that long uncomfortable period before mesh capable viewers became the norm where half the people or more that you met thought you had an invisible body with a weird egg shaped object floating where your torso should be and of course, cheap ass templates with minor texture variations flogged by every designer who wanted to claim he was a mesh designer.
But L&B create their own exclusive mesh templates and textures. They are expensive but worth it.
MENS S'Wear MESH "Classic" Black Leather Jacket w/HUD
HB - Pocket Bandana Pack MENS "Biker Classic Fit" in Black Distressed Leather Boots
Hair: Dura Boy 1, Dark Brown
Skin: Christen Medium by Evian Shape: Self made 3D Prim Full Beard by Jaryth's Barbershop Tintable Masculine Eyebrows by Jaryth's Barbershop Eddesign - Complete body hair type 1 Letis Tattoo :: Sirius :: Necklace: Silver 5 Bead and Leather Cord Necklace by Culture Fine Jewelry for Men
Leather jacket fans were dependent on stiff sculpts and careful resizing for many years. After mesh came along my L&B sculpted leathers were about the only sculpted prim clothes I would still sometimes drag out of the darker corners of my bulging inventory. It says something that I would get people asking me 'where I got that great mesh leather' when they were actually looking at a sculpt item.
But even with high quality sculpts you were still spending hours if you were finicky carefully sizing, stretching and positioning to try to downplay the essentially stiff and static nature of prim attachments to create the illusion of a stretching, dynamic, three dimensional piece of clothing. Unlike some die-hards who resisted mesh I was a grateful early adopter not least because my determination to shape and position prim components had started to border on OCD.
Of course mesh comes with its own challenges: getting items that match your body shape - or adjusting that body shape to match what was available, that long uncomfortable period before mesh capable viewers became the norm where half the people or more that you met thought you had an invisible body with a weird egg shaped object floating where your torso should be and of course, cheap ass templates with minor texture variations flogged by every designer who wanted to claim he was a mesh designer.
But L&B create their own exclusive mesh templates and textures. They are expensive but worth it.
MENS S'Wear MESH "Classic" Black Leather Jacket w/HUD
HB - Pocket Bandana Pack MENS "Biker Classic Fit" in Black Distressed Leather Boots
Hair: Dura Boy 1, Dark Brown
Skin: Christen Medium by Evian Shape: Self made 3D Prim Full Beard by Jaryth's Barbershop Tintable Masculine Eyebrows by Jaryth's Barbershop Eddesign - Complete body hair type 1 Letis Tattoo :: Sirius :: Necklace: Silver 5 Bead and Leather Cord Necklace by Culture Fine Jewelry for Men
Sunday, 10 March 2013
Hoorenbeek Tux revisited
Apparently I wasn't the only one a little put out by Hoorenbeek cashing in on finally releasing their mesh tux by charging twice for the whole outfit for the option of having the jacket open or closed. Additionally, in a notecard issued today, Hoorenbeek admits to unspecified 'problems' with the formal closed jacket version - this marketplace review is probably what they are talking about.
So this weekend they released a complete version in one. Jacket open, jacket closed, loose tie tied tie, with or without jacket at all, vest options - this is quite frankly the Hoorenbeek tux they should have released in the first place. Did L&B's feature heavy and spectacularly beautiful formal wear tux release panic them into releasing this tux too early? And why are the flawed open and closed almost featureless versions still available on Marketplace to trap the unwary into paying the same price for a crippled version that they could for this final version with all its options?
And what about the people who bought the stunted, in some cases broken versions? Will they be given refunds or free upgrades to this ultimate version? I've experienced Hoorenbeek's unwillingness to consider refunding or replacing items that don't work for customers - one of their mesh sweater combos made my eyeballs bulge out of their sockets - their response was 'oh that's interesting.' no refund or replacement was forthcoming.
In comparison with the eager and friendly service of an outlet like L&B who respond with alacrity to customer issues and seem to really care about how their outfits look on you - its a stark difference. When I once had a delivery problem with an L&B single jacket they immediately shipped me the fat-pack.
Its a good combo, now, but here's a head to head comparison with the L&B classic tux for 261 L less:
First Hoorenbeek's mesh tuxedo for 960 L, you get more shape options, jacket open or closed, tie tied or hanging loose, with or without vest or jacket. In order to not look too big on me I have to wear small and it makes me a little thin but the lines are great, elegant and classy.
It's a definite improvement over the first version but even this fix seems rushed; the notecards that come with the outfit mention color change HUDs for shirt tie and handkerchief that the outfit doesn't contain!
L&B's Mesh 2013 "Classic Black Tuxedo" for 699 L comes with less shape options but more texture options. jacket open and tie tied is the only shape and there is no vest or shirt only option, the top half of the outfit is one sculpt.
But it comes with a texture HUD like all of their many men's formal wear outfits and you can do multiple variations of colour and texture on shirt, tie and jacket. It comes with a nifty cummerbund unlike Hoorenbeek too.
The biggest difference to my mind is that L&Bs tux like all their outfits lovingly sculpts their outfits with the underlying musculature in mind. There are curves and bulges and a sense of the 3d shape underneath the clothes that Hoorenbeek subsumes to the shape of the clothes. I could almost wear L&B stuff without an alpha. With Hoorenbeek that would make me look like I was wearing some scattered rags.
These are both good outfits now but I still have a clear preference for the L&B version.
So this weekend they released a complete version in one. Jacket open, jacket closed, loose tie tied tie, with or without jacket at all, vest options - this is quite frankly the Hoorenbeek tux they should have released in the first place. Did L&B's feature heavy and spectacularly beautiful formal wear tux release panic them into releasing this tux too early? And why are the flawed open and closed almost featureless versions still available on Marketplace to trap the unwary into paying the same price for a crippled version that they could for this final version with all its options?
And what about the people who bought the stunted, in some cases broken versions? Will they be given refunds or free upgrades to this ultimate version? I've experienced Hoorenbeek's unwillingness to consider refunding or replacing items that don't work for customers - one of their mesh sweater combos made my eyeballs bulge out of their sockets - their response was 'oh that's interesting.' no refund or replacement was forthcoming.
In comparison with the eager and friendly service of an outlet like L&B who respond with alacrity to customer issues and seem to really care about how their outfits look on you - its a stark difference. When I once had a delivery problem with an L&B single jacket they immediately shipped me the fat-pack.
Its a good combo, now, but here's a head to head comparison with the L&B classic tux for 261 L less:
First Hoorenbeek's mesh tuxedo for 960 L, you get more shape options, jacket open or closed, tie tied or hanging loose, with or without vest or jacket. In order to not look too big on me I have to wear small and it makes me a little thin but the lines are great, elegant and classy.
It's a definite improvement over the first version but even this fix seems rushed; the notecards that come with the outfit mention color change HUDs for shirt tie and handkerchief that the outfit doesn't contain!
L&B's Mesh 2013 "Classic Black Tuxedo" for 699 L comes with less shape options but more texture options. jacket open and tie tied is the only shape and there is no vest or shirt only option, the top half of the outfit is one sculpt.But it comes with a texture HUD like all of their many men's formal wear outfits and you can do multiple variations of colour and texture on shirt, tie and jacket. It comes with a nifty cummerbund unlike Hoorenbeek too.
The biggest difference to my mind is that L&Bs tux like all their outfits lovingly sculpts their outfits with the underlying musculature in mind. There are curves and bulges and a sense of the 3d shape underneath the clothes that Hoorenbeek subsumes to the shape of the clothes. I could almost wear L&B stuff without an alpha. With Hoorenbeek that would make me look like I was wearing some scattered rags.
These are both good outfits now but I still have a clear preference for the L&B version.
Sunday, 3 March 2013
Dancing
L&B Mesh Worn Blue Bootcut Jeans
Kauna - Open Shirt Male: Black Silk
HB - Pocket Bandana Pack
MENS "Biker Classic Fit" in Black Distressed Leather Boots
Hair: Dura Boy 1, Dark Brown
Skin: Christen Medium by Evian
Shape: Self made
3D Prim Full Beard by Jaryth's Barbershop
Tintable Masculine Eyebrows by Jaryth's Barbershop
Eddesign - Complete body hair type 1
Letis Tattoo :: Sirius ::
Necklace: Silver 5 Bead and Leather Cord Necklace by Culture Fine Jewelry for Men
Sunday, 10 February 2013
Rocking the House
Shape: Self made
*ARAI* & **Dura** Nakano hat(Black hat)
Aloft Headphones - freebie not on Marketplace
* Guarded Cross * GC Jean Jacket: Riders Black
* Guarded Cross * Hand Knit Sweater II: Grey
[ContraptioN] Driving Glasses Not on Marketplace
.Pekka. Juicious Unisex Piercing (Jack & Jill Hunt)
! " Su Xue " Allumette Match Red NEW
Watch: Musashi Chronograph *Brute* Brown Leather - Male Version
MENS S'wear "Chinese Coin" Braided Necklace
Necklace: Silver 5 Bead and Leather Cord Necklace by Culture Fine Jewelry for Men
=Razorblade Jacket= Jaw Breaker Grunge Jeans /// Black
Skin: Christen medium by Evian
3D Prim Full Beard by Jaryth's Barbershop
Tintable Masculine Eyebrows by Jaryth's Barbershop
Monday, 28 January 2013
1986
Sunglasses: Hoorenbeek Retro - Not available on Marketplace
Hair - Dura-Boys&Girls 18
Hoorenbeek - Mesh Jeans - Washed Blue
Hoorenbeek - Mesh Leather Jacket - Brooklyn - Black
Gizza Christmas Gift blue shirt - not on Marketplace
Skin: Christen Medium by Evian
Shape: Self made
3D Prim Full Beard by Jaryth's Barbershop
Tintable Masculine Eyebrows by Jaryth's Barbershop
Eddesign - Complete body hair type 1
Sunday, 27 January 2013
The Operative
::GB:: & *Dura* Knit Cap (Dark Brown)
Mesh - Tweed Coat - REDGRAVE
Mesh Turtleneck - Wool - Black
! " Su Xue " Allumette Match Red NEW
>>Geo4Clothes<< - Gloves(Dark Grey)
Skin: Christen Medium by Evian
Shape: Self made
3D Prim Full Beard by Jaryth's Barbershop
Tintable Masculine Eyebrows by Jaryth's Barbershop
Eddesign - Complete body hair type 1
Thursday, 24 January 2013
Dear Mister Fantasy
Less than a month after initial release and Lappointe and Bastchild have released yet another major update of their already excellent and feature packed mesh Tuxedo that I wrote about here.
The new iteration is a spectacular White Tuxedo suit. I loved it on sight, and as it was already giving me a real John Lennon circa Abby Road vibe I went all the way with that idea by switching my hair to Dura-Boy 34 and my glasses to the Kassa 'Wise Man' model, not available on Marketplace.
Turn me on Dead Man.
The new iteration is a spectacular White Tuxedo suit. I loved it on sight, and as it was already giving me a real John Lennon circa Abby Road vibe I went all the way with that idea by switching my hair to Dura-Boy 34 and my glasses to the Kassa 'Wise Man' model, not available on Marketplace.
Turn me on Dead Man.
Tuesday, 22 January 2013
Grease Monkey
Headband: selfmade
Sunglasses: Hoorenbeek Retro - Not available on Marketplace
Hair: Dura Boy 1, Dark BrownSkin: Christen Medium by Evian
Shape: Self made
3D Prim Full Beard by Jaryth's Barbershop
Tintable Masculine Eyebrows by Jaryth's Barbershop
Eddesign - Complete body hair type 1
Letis Tattoo :: Sirius ::
Necklace: Silver 5 Bead and Leather Cord Necklace by Culture Fine Jewelry for Men
Monday, 21 January 2013
Hoodie Blazer
<kal rau> Casual Blazer M3_Mesh
Mesh Jeans - Black- Hoorenbeek
Hair: Dura Boy 1, Dark BrownSkin: Christen Medium by Evian
Shape: Self made
Glasses - Adjunct New Browline Readers, currently a freebie inworld.
3D Prim Full Beard by Jaryth's Barbershop
Tintable Masculine Eyebrows by Jaryth's Barbershop
Eddesign - Complete body hair type 1
Letis Tattoo :: Sirius ::
Neclace: Silver 5 Bead and Leather Cord Necklace by Culture Fine Jewelry for Men
*Milady's* -Bridges- Onyx/Silver Men's Bracelet
Friday, 18 January 2013
Pensive
ISPACHI Mesh [Brandt Cardigan + T] Black
MENS S'Wear MESH Jeans BootCut Style Smooth Slate
Hoorenbeek El Paso Boots - Brown - not on Marketplace
Hair: Dura Boy 1, Dark BrownSkin: Christen Medium by Evian
Shape: Self made
3D Prim Full Beard by Jaryth's Barbershop
Tintable Masculine Eyebrows by Jaryth's Barbershop
Eddesign - Complete body hair type 1
Letis Tattoo :: Sirius ::
Neclace: Silver 5 Bead and Leather Cord Necklace by Culture Fine Jewelry for Men
*Milady's* -Bridges- Onyx/Silver Men's Bracelet
Glasses: Hoorenbeek Ansor Mens - Not on Marketplace available inworld at Main Store
Thursday, 17 January 2013
Hot for teacher?
Kauna - CasualBlazer: Pinstripe Brown
Hair: Dura Boy 1, Dark BrownSkin: Christen Medium by Evian
Shape: Self made
3D Prim Full Beard by Jaryth's Barbershop
Tintable Masculine Eyebrows by Jaryth's Barbershop
Eddesign - Complete body hair type 1
Letis Tattoo :: Sirius ::
Neclace: Silver 5 Bead and Leather Cord Necklace by Culture Fine Jewelry for Men
*Milady's* -Bridges- Onyx/Silver Men's Bracelet
Glasses: Hoorenbeek Ansor Mens - Not on Marketplace available inworld at Main Store
The Morning After
Kauna - Open Shirt Male: White
MENS S'Wear MESH Leather Pants Ankle Zip - Plain Black - L&B
Hair: Dura Boy 1, Dark BrownSkin: Christen Medium by Evian
Shape: Self made
3D Prim Full Beard by Jaryth's Barbershop
Tintable Masculine Eyebrows by Jaryth's Barbershop
Eddesign - Complete body hair type 1
Letis Tattoo :: Sirius ::
Neclace: Silver 5 Bead and Leather Cord Necklace by Culture Fine Jewelry for Men
*Milady's* -Bridges- Onyx/Silver Men's Bracelet
Amy's outfit: Daddy's Cardigan by Dirty Little Secret - not available on Marketplace
Urban Casual
Immerschoen, 'Bono' Leather Jacket
L&B Mesh Worn Blue Bootcut Jeans
Hoorenbeek Wool Turtleneck
Hair: Dura Boy 1, Dark Brown
Skin: Christen Medium by Evian
Shape: Self made
3D Prim Full Beard by Jaryth's Barbershop
Tintable Masculine Eyebrows by Jaryth's Barbershop
Eddesign - Complete body hair type 1
Letis Tattoo :: Sirius ::
Neclace: Silver 5 Bead and Leather Cord Necklace by Culture Fine Jewelry for Men
*Milady's* -Bridges- Onyx/Silver Men's Bracelet
Glasses: Hoorenbeek Ansor Mens - Not on Marketplace available inworld at Main Store
Tuesday, 15 January 2013
The Mesh Tuxedo Quest
When it's steam engine time everyone is inventing steam engines at once. When the state of the art of mesh reaches a certain point and there has been a tuxedo development arms race going for an extended period, everybody comes out with mesh tuxedos at once.
I had been waiting impatiently for the Hoorenbeek mesh Tux. We all knew it was coming and it was supposed to be the big event.
I've been a Hoorenbeek guy for a long time. I'm the guy who pops into the main store Saturday afternoon for the new release 200 linden sale and my Hoorenbeek folder is a big one. Lately though, as I shift almost completely to mesh products, other designers have captured my heart - and my Lindens. Kauna, Razorblade, Kokane and more than any other menswear designer besides Hoorenbeek, Lapointe & Bastchild.
So when L&B beats Hoorenbeek to the mesh Tux party by a matter of weeks the comparisons are inevitable.
First the long awaited Hoorenbeek Mesh Tuxedo. They decided to release it as a complete outfit. Part of their excellent combo pack series perfect for relative newbies, alts and gifts where one purchase can create a whole look.
They were 600 lindens each the first weekend and 960 ongoing. As you can see the two options are closed jacket tied tie and a rakish 3 AM ratpack look with untied tie and open jacket. The lines are classic and evocative of Frank Sinatra in Vegas and "Bond, James Bond." It's a professional, briskly dependable product from the recognised elite menswear design team in Second Life today. If the lines seem awfully similar to other shirt, jacket, pants combos long time followers of Hoorenbeek have seen many times before, well they are great lines and you can always count on a quality product from the Hoorenbeek label.
The question of why the minor differences between these two outfits couldn't be offered in one outfit rather than an attempt to soak you for two complete outfits with those two minor variations cannot be reasonably avoided and although high quality the overwhelming impression is a little bloodless.
Bloodless is a word that will never be used for Lapointe and their mesh tuxedo is a perfect example of why.
Hair: Dura Boy 1, Dark Brown
Skin: Christen Medium by Evian
Shape: Self made
3D Prim Full Beard by Jaryth's Barbershop
Tintable Masculine Eyebrows by Jaryth's Barbershop
Eddesign - Complete body hair type 1
Letis Tattoo :: Sirius ::
Neclace: Silver 5 Bead and Leather Cord Necklace by Culture Fine Jewelry for Men
*Milady's* -Bridges- Onyx/Silver Men's Bracelet
I had been waiting impatiently for the Hoorenbeek mesh Tux. We all knew it was coming and it was supposed to be the big event.
I've been a Hoorenbeek guy for a long time. I'm the guy who pops into the main store Saturday afternoon for the new release 200 linden sale and my Hoorenbeek folder is a big one. Lately though, as I shift almost completely to mesh products, other designers have captured my heart - and my Lindens. Kauna, Razorblade, Kokane and more than any other menswear designer besides Hoorenbeek, Lapointe & Bastchild.
So when L&B beats Hoorenbeek to the mesh Tux party by a matter of weeks the comparisons are inevitable.
First the long awaited Hoorenbeek Mesh Tuxedo. They decided to release it as a complete outfit. Part of their excellent combo pack series perfect for relative newbies, alts and gifts where one purchase can create a whole look.
They were 600 lindens each the first weekend and 960 ongoing. As you can see the two options are closed jacket tied tie and a rakish 3 AM ratpack look with untied tie and open jacket. The lines are classic and evocative of Frank Sinatra in Vegas and "Bond, James Bond." It's a professional, briskly dependable product from the recognised elite menswear design team in Second Life today. If the lines seem awfully similar to other shirt, jacket, pants combos long time followers of Hoorenbeek have seen many times before, well they are great lines and you can always count on a quality product from the Hoorenbeek label.
The question of why the minor differences between these two outfits couldn't be offered in one outfit rather than an attempt to soak you for two complete outfits with those two minor variations cannot be reasonably avoided and although high quality the overwhelming impression is a little bloodless.
Bloodless is a word that will never be used for Lapointe and their mesh tuxedo is a perfect example of why.
The L&B 2013 Modern Black Open Tuxedo is two pieces, pants and a combined jacket, vest, shirt and tie combo. There are a half dozen main colour pack variants at 699 lindens each represented by the big HUD on the left. Red is my favourite colour so I picked the Claret model. The main Huds give you multiple texture variations both subtle and major for jacket and pants, vest, tie and handkerchief.
Then you have the option of buying any of dozens of different 'mini-huds' at 199 L a pop, three of which can be seen on the right of the image. These give you additional tie, vest and shirt options. The features are astoundingly detailed and the textures are breathtakingly lush and rich.
As a nice extra, the Mesh Tuxedo folder includes their pre-mesh prim outfit version of the same Tux from 2010 almost as an afterthought, useful for when you are going out dancing with someone who can't see mesh. The kind of generosity to their customers Lapointe has become know for.
The phrase that comes to mind is labour of love.
In terms of price, features and expandability I have to give this head to head to Lapointe, even given that the Hoorenbeek outfit includes shoes.
Hair: Dura Boy 1, Dark Brown
Skin: Christen Medium by Evian
Shape: Self made
3D Prim Full Beard by Jaryth's Barbershop
Tintable Masculine Eyebrows by Jaryth's Barbershop
Eddesign - Complete body hair type 1
Letis Tattoo :: Sirius ::
Neclace: Silver 5 Bead and Leather Cord Necklace by Culture Fine Jewelry for Men
*Milady's* -Bridges- Onyx/Silver Men's Bracelet
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